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Sujet : lifter 9 cell 
Date : 15/09/2002 18:47:01 Paris, Madrid
De : Chris Gupta ( Florida - USA )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

bonjour jean,
chris gupta: engr/antigravity researcher south florida launches the 9 cell lifter
this measures 12"x12"x12"  1-1/2" space between positive electrode (4mm) and negative side walls .i first use copper wire and it barely lifted.
i purchased aluminum wire the smallest available #28 gage it blew my over amp circuit. i was successful with #38 nichrome wire,lots of thrust very quite.
i will post this on my website www.chrisgupta.com

keep up the good work jean,

i am planning larger versions.

(089)
Sujet : Lift off in Spokane Washington USA 
Date : 14/09/2002 18:03:24 Paris, Madrid
De : John Rigg ( Spokane Washington, USA )
A : jnaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Greeting from Spokane Washington, here is a picture of my first Lifter.
I'm using a old Computer monitor for the HV supply. My lifter is heavier than it needs to be as I used top and bottom struts for the foil but it shoots as soon as I switch on the power. I found that it has more lift when I use a 50gauge wire for the top conductor, I also used it for the supply lines to the lifter.

A good source for cheep mico size wire can be found inside the cheep battery operated clocks like you would get a "dollar store". I will post more pictures and mpeg video soon at my web site, the Robot Hut. http://www.robothut.robotnut.com
John R.


Click on the Picture above to see the Real Video

(088)
Sujet : Lifter 
Date : 06/09/2002 20:50:39 Paris, Madrid
De : Ben (USA)
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Hi Jean-Louis,  

Well everyone else has built a lifter so I built one this afternoon on the urging of a buddy of mine as he wanted to build a power supply for one. 

It is simply 7" on sides, 3 " tall, single sticks at the top of the foil. Zap glue,Standard stuff, foil rounded over.  Powered off a 15" color TV set. Weight about 0.09 oz.  Very fine wire out of a zip cord.  What can I say, it snaps to the top of the threads like a champ. 

Thanks for all the info, it made it easy!  

What Fun,

Ben K4ZEP

(087)
Sujet : Lifer replication in Baltimore Maryland 
Date : 04/09/2002 22:24:24 Paris, Madrid
De : Eric B. Serfass ( Baltimore Maryland, USA )
A : Jnaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Hello everyone,

   I'd like to report yet ANOTHER successful lifter replication, this time in Baltimore Maryland, USA! This is my third lifter, and my most stable so far, using basic balsa, foil and 32 ga uncoated stainless wire (found in a local hobby shop, used for beading/jewelry). There is no appreciable corona, and it is almost silent!

   Great thanks goes to everyone involved making this an "open source" reasearch project, in the spirit of the pioneering inventors/researchers that most of our technologies are based today. One almost forgets the lone toilers from which many our greatest breakthroughs have come. And this seems to only be the beginning!

The wonder in this world never ceases,
-Eric B. Serfass

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Sujet : Yet another Dutch lifter 
Date : 01/09/2002 17:37:53 Paris, Madrid
De : Gjalt Reitsma ( The Netherlands )
A : Jnaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet (afficher l'en-tête)

Hi Jean-Louis,

I am verry happy to send you a picture of my first Lifter 1 replica. After some fiddling around with the distance between the copper wire and the alu foil, and the +30kV wire discharging to the ground rather than to my lifter, it floats quite stable.
I put some more pix and descriptions on http://jerry.odee.net/www/lifters

Thank you for your excellent description of the lifter!

kind regards

Gjalt Reitsma

(085)
Sujet : It flew 
Date : 30/08/2002 21:50:21 Paris, Madrid
De : Dave B. ( UK )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Jean,        

Read an article in janes defence weekly on lifters and had to find out more. Went to your web sight and used your instructions to build the lifter 1. Built it, connected it to the HT on an old vga monitor and it flew, aprox 4" of the desk which was not what I expected.
Now totally hooked and am building an other larger craft. 

Best regards  Dave B.  

(084)
Sujet : another dutch lifter 
Date : 30/08/2002 20:08:35 Paris, Madrid
De : Wouter Vlothuizen ( The Netherlands )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Hi Jean,

only a day after the first documented Dutch lifter flight by my colleague
Marcel van der Lee my second attempt at a lifter design made a succesful
flight. I have put some documentation and films on
http://lifters.vlothuizen.nl/

Keep up the good work with your website,
Wouter Vlothuizen
(52 06' 34" N  04 19' 38" E)

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Sujet : Successful Lifter Flight in Anchorage, Alaska USA 
Date : 28/08/2002 07:30:52 Paris, Madrid
De : Dave March ( Anchorage, Alaska USA )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Hello,

It was the third lifter I built that I finally got to fly. It is 20cm each side and stands 14.5cm tall with 4cm of foil for the skirt. This is actually the second one I built but I modified it with the lower strut extensions and also removed the red coating from the corona wire. After I played with the height of the corona wire it finally took off!

I have to thank Carl Ramm who first showed me the lifter and for inspiring me to build it.

Thanks,
Dave March
Anchorage, Alaska USA

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Sujet : A successful dutch lifter 
Date : 27/08/2002 14:14:53 Paris, Madrid
De : Marcel van der Lee ( The Netherlands )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet (afficher l'en-tête)

Hello Jean,

We are very pleased to send you the photograph of our replication of your 'built-yourself- lifter. After some adjusting of the distance between the plates and the wire in combination to the voltage, the lifter worked fine.

Thanks for your superb website.

Regards,
--
    Marcel van der Lee
    Den Haag
    The Netherlands

(081)
Sujet : Lifter flight in Iceland 
Date : 22/08/2002 20:15:28 Paris, Madrid
De : Stefán Rósinkrans Pálsson ( Iceland )
Envoyé via Internet

Hi
My name is Stefán Rósinkrans Pálsson and I´m an Electric & Computer Engeneering student in Iceland.  I manged to make my first lifter flight the August 20, 2002.  Trouly a fantastic flight were I could see the clow from the corona wire whe it was dark. 

Thanks fore a greate webside.
Regards
Stefan

(080)
Sujet : Successful Lifter Replication 
Date : 22/08/2002 10:46:14 Paris, Madrid
De : Peter ( UK )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Hi,

I based the design for this Lifter on your Lifter v1.0. This was the third lifter I built to this design. At first It's lift was weak so I progressively shortened the distance between the aluminum plate and the corona wire from 70mm in 5mm intervals. The lifter flew when I got to 45mm. In order to see if this was caused by the reduction of weight I attached the bits of the corona wire's support that I had removed. The Lifter still flew, in fact I attached approximately twice the length of balsa back onto the lifter and it still flew. The other dimensions were as per v1.0 but The foil support followed the design of your Lifter1. I then revised my other lifters and found that a similar reduction of the size of the supports increased their lift (they did not fly well because they were also much heavier). This suggests that the distance between the plate and the corona wire is not as predicted by Michael Couch and Evgenij Barsoukov's theory however this is not conclusive as other factors such as the conductivity of the support materials may and the power of the supply may be different. Another Lifter I built was entirely made from polystyrene and this one required an even smaller gap.

p.s. Thank you for the lifter, It's pretty wonderful when you first see one take of.


Cheers

Peter.

(079)
Sujet : lifter from florida 
Date : 20/08/2002 02:36:05 Paris, Madrid
De : Chris Gupta ( Florida - USA )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

jean
chris gupta/ electronic engineer. i take great pleasure to inform you of another success from florida.
my basic lifter 6"x6"x6" positive at 2" from negative foil.
with 30kv at 1.5ma  it just lifted about 50mm and moved around.
with a 30kv at 5ma it went straight up .
i will soon post more info on my web site
http://www.chrisgupta.com
i am working on the gravity capacitor.\\
i have die cut hard tempered aluminum plates 8' diameter
nine segments,the dielectric mylar 10'diameter also die cut.
air screen 9'diameter,three versions to be tested.
i will keep you informed
chris

(078)
Sujet : Successful Lifter Replication 
Date : 16/08/2002 05:26:50 Paris, Madrid
De : Tim Ziebell ( Ottawa, Ontario, Canada )
A : JNaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

Hello Jean,

Just like to thank you for the great site and all the useful information contained within. A few of my friends and I were able to successfully recreate the lifter version 1. We have put some of the media up on our own website so I’ll just provide you the link to it : www.caduceonlabs.com/~lifters/

To our delight, the thing worked right off the bat! We were expecting it to go up in a ball of flames. We are using the GRA series power supply, providing 20,000 volts @ 1ma. We have to date also replicated the lifter version 2 and tested it. We don’t have that media up on the website yet, but it’ll be up there shortly.

I am attending University this fall, and it is my intent, and of course, time willing, to found a 'Lifters Club' at the school. Hopefully we'll be able to conduct some of the more advanced experiments that require expensive machinery, such as tests in a very solid vacuum. Should the group be created, I'll make sure to publish all our findings on the web as well. We also have successfully conducted an outdoor test of the lifter version 2. We hope to have some of that media up soon as well.

Thanks again for the great website!

Regards,

Tim Ziebell in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

(077)
Sujet : First successful lifter flight in Florida: 
Date : 14/08/2002 07:00:53 Paris, Madrid
De : Thomas W. Demperio( St.Petersburg, Florida USA )
A : jnaudin509@aol.com

8/13/2002
6:00 P.M. Eastern standard time
St.Petersburg, Florida

Greetings,
I have just had my first successful lifter flight. I used information from fellow Arc and Sparkers in the group.

I came up with my own design. It is a circular shape with a 100mm diameter, 50mm foil, and 30 guage nichrome wire on foam struts for the emitter at 50mm above the foil. I ran my converted flyback off of a Mac SE power supply using the +12vdc and -12VDC leads for 24VDC output. I ran a nylon line from the launch surface to the ceiling as a guide line. The first flight reached 80mm and the second near 150mm. The only height limiting factor was the length of the HV leads. I will have video of the flight when I get a chance to convert it.

Also attached is a picture of my half sphere craft that shows a 50% increase in output Ion wind/Ether wind...

Thanks for the inspiration and information...
Thomas W. Demperio St.Petersburg, Florida
Bangyourdrums@yahoo.com

Visit my homepage at: http://members.tripod.com/~bangyourdrums/antigravity.html
Bizarre is what we are...Unique is what we seek...
              Thomas W. Demperio

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Sujet : Another Lifter Replication! 
Date : 12/08/2002 08:37:09 Paris, Madrid
De : Mica Busch (Michigan, USA)
A : jnaudin509@aol.com
Envoyé via Internet

First of all, I must thank you for this website- and this technology- as antigravity has been a lifelong dream of mine; albeit slowed by unattainable & expensive technology. You have shown everyone how to defy gravity with simple household items!

I built four lifters, all but ELT 2.3 were made with 4x5mm slices of balsa, and ELT 2.3 was made with 2x3mm balsa:

ELT 2.0 - Lifter 1 Style [120mm X 75mm] - Modified w/straws for adjustable wire distance. Too Heavy To Lift off, but produces noticable thrust when suspended. Heavy foils, straws, wood glue, epoxy, cyanoacrylate, tape; WAYYY to heavy!


ELT 2.1 - Lifter 1 Style [120mm X 75mm] - No straws, lightweight foils, lift off! Only hovers at around 40-50mm.

ELT 2.2 - Lifter Basic Style [200mm X 100mm] - A bit larger, light foils, no lower support. Very good lift, but only hovers around 30-40mm


ELT 2.3 - Custom Lifter [100mm X 50mm+25mm extensions] - Lifts quite well, 50-60mm hover. Originally vertical struts were 50mm, but due to arcing they had to be extended. Still works well!


I guess because of workmanship the thrust is quite unequal on each side, and for some reason- no matter how slack the tethers are- the lifters dont hover very high. I guess my power supply is too weak [Old Macintosh "Multiscan-15" Monitor], so I am working on building a 40KV Ignition Coil supply. My lab is also in a basement, so humidity may also have an effect.

Before ELT 2.0, I built a few variants on the Lifter principle, using straws, q-tips, and pvc tube. All were used to measure suspended thrust, of course, and they worked very well! More pictures and a website soon.

Like 'Howard B', all my lifters are built with the positive electrode as the wire. Seems to work best this way? Also, grounding the work surface is a MUST, I used aluminum foil connected to ground. [No arcing because bottom foil is Neg.]

So, I cannot thank you, and all the otehr hobbyists around the world, enough for bringing this technology into public view! I will help further this technology as much as I can!

Mica Busch (Michigan, USA)

Link to the Mica Bush web site : http://www.nmo.net/~busch/edunltd/lifters.html


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